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| Zimbabwe opposition chief Morgan Tsvangirai and several top aides were detained by police on Wednesday while charities were told to stop work as authorities intensified a crackdown ahead of a run-off poll. Quote:
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| Zimbabwe opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai has been released by police after being detained for about eight hours, his spokesman has said.[quote] Quote:
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| (AHH! Fresh blood for the nbc!!!!!) Quote:
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| Tsvangirai's arrest, the firing of staff at ZBC, the violence in the rural areas - all this forms part of a larger plan by the security establoihsment, Mugabe and ZANU-PF to keep the MDC on its backfoot, harass its organisers, interrupt campaigning where and when possible to the maximum extent, intimdate and brutalise the rural electorate and - this is the ultimate aim - miraculously reverse Mugabe's election defeat in the first round and thus ensure victory in the second round. Over the years Mugabe and ZANU-PF have become good at this.... I remain hopeful they won't get away with it again......
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| Dear Friends, I am supposed to be pretty rational about events in our region; someone not lead up the garden path very quickly by any rumours of this and that. I freely admit, though, that this time even I am puzzled. Who is lying and to what extent are they lying? Is anyone speaking the truth? Is our neighbour heading for an Armageddon? Is Zimbabwe about to become the seventh heaven? Please, help me decide ............ Scenario No.1 Quote:
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| Brilliant question, Oneword, the answer to which I think we will indeed find difficult to get to the bottom to unless we had the chance to be there at the time and the place to actually witness what happened. Life being what it is, I believe the answer lies somewhere in the middle. Tsvangirai and his entourage were most probably stopped and harassed and detained, but it is also quite possible that the MDC is using the incident to milk it for what its worth from a propaganda point-of-view. SO he may have only been detained for a couple of hours, and maybe even treated respectfulyl by the police officers - after all, many of them sympathise with him (believe it or not). I think anyone who believes that the MDC does not engage in propaganda and twisting the truth to suit its ends at times is naive. One thing that seems pretty obivous to me, though, is that for the ZANU-PF regime much more is at stake, namely the complete loss of power. They have already lost Parliament and were set to lose the Presidency. They also have a clear history of creating fabrications and blatant propaganda, so I tend to give the MDC version the benefit of doubt - where I can. I also think that when the big news agencies like Reuters and AFP report that Mbeki had to intervene to get Tsvangirai released there is a good chance that this did indeed happen. They do check their sources and have an ear to the ground. Factual reporting is their bread and butter, and it has to be reliable. Of course the agencies also get it wrong at times, but they usually correct thier mistakes very quickly. I tend to check what Reuters, AFP and smaller agencies report and compare the facts. This is how AFP reported the intervention, and there is no reason to believe it not to be true: Quote:
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| I salute Helen Zille for speaking out on the Zimbabwe issue and calling on Mbeki to do the same. It is indeed high time that SOuth Africa's President steps up to the plate and fulfills his obligations as a neutral faciliator in the crisis, and stops protecting Mugabe and ZANU-PF. It is a disgrace for South Africa to take the side of oppression, violence and intidimation, as opposed to supporting the voices of reason, peace, progress and democracy in Zimbabwe: Quote:
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| To be fair to the South Africans, the ANC seems to be raising its volume. Now, of course Mbeki himself has not taken the bold step of calling Mugabe and ZANU publicly to order, but at least his party is starting to. As it should, mind you. Quote:
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| Uncle Paul, I agree to some extent, but, on the other hand, if you see what Mad Bob has done again, the volume should be turned way up! From today's (Saturday) Herald: Quote:
Now, what would you rather do? Use some of those useless billions to buy essential, but nearly non-existing food or buy a newspaper? Right! I thought so. De Facto cutting the Zimbabweans off from everything that is news ... except for the "imaginative"reporting of the Herald and its equally horrid kith and kind. Last edited by Oneword; 7th June 2008 at 07:05 PM. Reason: spelling |
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