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| View Poll Results: Do you believe the second round of the March harmonised elections in Zimbabwe were free and fair? | |||
| Yes, they were | | 31 | 14.22% |
| No, they were not | | 123 | 56.42% |
| I'm not sure | | 64 | 29.36% |
| Voters: 218. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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| Sponsor's Message Comrade_007, I agree with your sentiments - in general - but would rather ask: "Is this what certain factions IN SWAPO support!" I have one really major problem with the stories emating from Zimbabwe at the moment. They are all tainted. Either they come from USA/UK/Australia or similar countries (who we know will be biased), or they come from people who are without a shadow of doubt violently (bad choice of words - let's rather say "rabidly") anti Mugabe. I have not yet heard one definitive opinion from someone who is, for all accounts and purposes, unbiased and tells the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. No embroidery of fact; no selective photos, etc. This is not to say that I am of the opinion that the photos shown are fakes! No, they are real enough. It is just just one would love to see someone with a lot of credibility (and I do not mean Mbeki!) in Africa actually confirm these atrocities. That fact alone makes it very difficult for people in the region to actually form an independent opinion. Unless that is forthcoming from someone Africa trusts and believes in, all criticism will always be made off as pure and simple "witch-hunting" Last edited by Oneword; 16th June 2008 at 12:24 PM. |
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| Senator Obama joins the zim fray with this statement: Quote:
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| Mugabe's achilles heel is his wallet - We must cut off Zimbabwe's access to foreign currency to force a free and fair election In less than two weeks the fate of the people of Zimbabwe will be determined by the result of a run-off presidential election. If Robert Mugabe is allowed to steal that election the tragedy will be complete. The scale of the catastrophe that Mugabe has precipitated in his country is almost unimaginable. In just ten years, life expectancy has plummeted from 61 years to less than 36 - the lowest in the world. The economy has disintegrated - inflation by the official measure stood at 164,900 per cent in April, unemployment is more than 80 per cent; the shops are empty, the health service has collapsed, the school system no longer functions and millions of Zimbabweans have fled. Amid the chaos and misery for ordinary Zimbabweans there exists a grotesque contrast. It is to be found in the ostentatious houses, newly built in the suburbs of Harare by Mugabe's party cronies and the military top brass; in the expensive cars that chauffeur the Zanu (PF) elite around the capital and the luxury foods available to those with access to foreign currency. But this grotesque contrast is most sinisterly apparent in the foreign currency miraculously found to arm and equip the forces that brutalise Mugabe's opponents, while public services and infrastructure crumble. In view of the extreme circumstances facing Zimbabwe, I urged Gordon Brown two weeks ago to warn Mugabe that unless his Government met the basic minimum standards for a free and fair election on June 27 we would work with our allies in the region and the wider world to do the thing that his regime fears: cut off access to the foreign currency that keeps them in power. This step could be taken straight away by Britain using the powers of the Exchange Control Act 1947. Since everything hinges on what happens in the coming days, a sharp and aggressive strategy with immediate consequences is justified and this is the only tool with sufficient force to secure the guarantees that we need now to ensure there is a fair election. We propose that its application should be reviewed weekly and be lifted immediately should the regime meet basic requirements for fair elections. Blocking Zimbabwe's access to foreign currency would be a serious step and I do not propose it lightly. I know that many ordinary Zimbabweans rely on remittances from friends and relatives abroad. But access to foreign currency is what sustains Mugabe's brutal rule; blocking it is the only step that will have an impact on his regime because it would threaten its ability to function. Since I raised this matter with the Prime Minister, the political situation in Zimbabwe has deteriorated even farther. Aid agencies have been banned from distributing desperately needed food, Morgan Tsvangirai, the opposition leader, has been detained five times and prohibited from holding rallies; more than 60 opposition supporters have been killed, and thousands have been beaten, intimidated and driven from their homes. Mugabe at the weekend said that he was willing “to go to war” if he lost. The Joint Operations Command, made up of the heads of the military and state security organisations, is already directing a violent campaign to “decompose” the Movement for Democratic Change. Mr Brown said that he was willing to consider any measure that might secure a free and fair election, but I fear that in the end we will settle for nothing more than the usual hand-wringing and ritual condemnation. The British Government has faced a difficult dilemma in tackling the Zimbabwe crisis. The Foreign Office has been understandably fearful that robust action against Mugabe's regime would play into his hands by discomforting our allies in southern Africa and by allowing him to characterise the MDC Opposition as stooges of Zimbabwe's “colonial oppressors”. The Government's reticence may have been understandable while hope remained that Thabo Mbeki, the President of South Africa, would act decisively, but that hope faded long ago. In any event, anyone who has recently read the pages of the Zimbabwe Herald recently, or heard the broadcasts of the state radio or television channels, will know that the virulence of Mugabe's anti-British/anti-MDC rhetoric is already so extreme that he could not increase the level of vitriol even if he wished to. Critics of the measures I have proposed argue that blocking foreign currency from entering the country would precipitate greater suffering. I do not underestimate the severe consequences. The alternative, however, is to do nothing. That may spare us our moral qualms but it would not spare us the responsibility for the far greater disaster that will engulf Zimbabwe if Robert Mugabe is allowed to steal the election. The consequences for Zimbabwe's people of that outcome would be catastrophic beyond any imagining. Nick Clegg is leader of the (UK) Liberal Democrats |
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| Zimbabwe's pro-Mugabe war vets draw hard line. In a rare interview, militia leader threatens to take over more white-owned farms and businesses. Quote:
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| Just a repost! Well that makes perfect sense, why didn't we think of that? Mugabe is only protecting his countries legacy and his own ideology. That is why he is holding onto power until he can find someone just like himself. Hitler and Stalin and a host of other dictators shared that same cold ideology with an iron fist. So perhaps the rest of the world should share with him our Ideology and show Mugabe the error of his ways permanently! by Barry Artiste |
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| Well, sirree!! If'n he wants to play cards, why not Poker and preferably with 2 Aces and Eights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BTW. It's called the "dead man's hand" from the legend of it having been the five-card-draw hand held by Wild Bill Hickok at the time of his murder. |
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| Poli, wherever you at the moment.... It's a beautiful article and a good analysis. PS. You stole nobody's thunder. A good article is a good article irrespective of who writes/posts it |
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| It's starting to happen, my brothers and sisters: Some African politicans are speaking out about the horrendous violence unfolding in Zimbabwe...the tide is finally, slowly turning against Mugabe and ZANU-PF. Words which were unspeakable only until recently are now being spoken. Is it enough? No. Will it change Mugabe's and ZANU-PF's behaviour? We'll see. But it is a change for the better, in the end.... Quote:
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| Comrade_007, Thanks for the comments and, as usual, I support you ... to some extent. Trawling all the news ... as I am wont to do... I find a lot of hot air and very little else. And, no, I am not advocating an insurrection or a coup d'état. Neither am I advocating the wholesale importation of "blue helmets"(although in Namibia they proved to be beneficial if not spectacularly efficient). Mere words will not make Mugabe and his henchmen go away or become more reconcilable with their eventual fate. These words may be powerful and fill up many web and other pages, but they are not imprecations and not terrible efficacious. All of the Zanu-PF elite has much too much to lose to give up now. Their dark minions will continue to rampage and go beserker until they have achieved the final Mugabe goal: vanquishing any upstart with democratic ideas - and continuing bleeding the country dry. The equivalent of a political Dracula! Anybody who labours under the misapprehension and pipe-dream of a GNU, should, maybe, be reminded what usually happens in Africa when one puts a lion (albeit old and tattered) and a lamb (politically-speaking) together. Somehow it reminds me of the countless post-Apocalypse films where there are poisonous and lethal no-go zones. We might as well fence off the country and start putting up signs to say: "Ingozi, Danger, Gevaar" History may vindicate us when it records "This used to a land of plenty. See what happens when you get a megalomaniac allowed to go totally nuts by the international community". Goodbye, Zimbabwe! It's been nice knowing you! Last edited by Oneword; 20th June 2008 at 07:32 AM. Reason: additions and corrections |
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| Is it now possible to say that South Africa's Government is complicit in the wave of state-sponsored violence and terror that is sweeping Zimbabwe? I mean we have Mbeki protecting the regime by not publicly calling the regime to order and speaking out about the situation? We have the country's foreign minister Zuma snubbing the international community by avoiding discussions about the country in the Security Council? We have the MDC saying they have no trust and confidence in Mbeki as mediator because he is not acting in a neutral fashion. Is this part of a well-established pattern of protecting the regime and subverting the will of the Zimbabwean people? I am disappointed and saddened by the policies of South Africa towards Zimbabwe. The undisputable fact is that South Africa could have and should have exerted pressure much earlier and force the regime to get its house in order and let the will of the people of Zimbabwe prevail. They had and have the political and economic means to do so, but chose not to. It had and still has the means to do so, but it does not. That is a policy choice, and a regrettable one. South Africa has failed our continent and the people of Zimbabwe.
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