The Zimbabwe Situation - Page 3

Dude · #21 **31st March 2008, 10:08 PM**

Mark my words: The rigging of election results currently underway in ZImbabwe will ensure victory for ZANU-PF and Mugabe. These "results" will be announced tomorrow in a coreographed fashion by the state media, with a quick swearing-in ceremony for Mugabe. The figures will fly in the face of official results posted at polling stations. All and everyone who naively had hoped for anything else will once again be reminded that absolute power corrupts absoluteyl, to the extent that "elections" are managed affairs and stage-managed political theatre. But then, this is Africa, and in Africa we go through the charade of elections so we can pretend we are democrats. We all know the MDC and Tsvangirai won, and that the strong men with the guns once again prevail. It will be time for South Africa to switch off the electricity. Anything else will mean complicity in this obvious, shameless, callous charade of an election.

Comrade_007 · #22 **31st March 2008, 11:44 PM**

Dude - stop die lorrie as they say. I sense your frustration and agree with some of your sentiments, but there yet remains a chance that ZANUOF and Mugabe will realise ther time is indeed finally over. Klaar gelag. Unlike last time there are apparently not as many polic and soldiers on the streets, so maybe the security people have also realised that the game is up. Finish and out So, let us wait and see.

Oneword · #23 **1st April 2008, 12:19 PM**

Comrade_007,

It's not over "until the fat lady sings" ...........................................

Oneword · #24 **2nd April 2008, 11:14 AM**

Here is another site with Zim election results:

zimbabwemetro.com-politics,news,sports and views

Klipkop · #25 **2nd April 2008, 12:41 PM**

Good Idea. If all so called democratic countries can allow "SUPER UNTAG" to conduct elections in their countries what is wrong with that. This include Uncle Sam (USA). Who says they don't rigg elections? Don't tell me the cost does not warrant that. There is a cost associated to every election and can be contributed towards a Election Execution Agency eqquiped with all the neccesary tools to conduct elections on an agreed failsafe process in all countries who claims to be democratic.

Klipkop · #26 **2nd April 2008, 12:49 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comrade_007

Sure johannes105 - if they can actually do that. Now who knows.

Here we are speculating that Mugabe and ZANU-PF will rigg the vote, and all indications so far is that they will.

But there seems to be a change in tone, if not heart.

Mugabe actually said at a ralley in Bulawayo today that he expects the MDC to win the vote. I couldn't believe my ears, but this is what he said: "This time we are sure the MDC is going to win, ZANU-PF is split, split into two and some of the top leaders have left,". Could this be the beginning of the end for Mugabe and ZANU-PF? Have they finally seen that their end has come? If so, then there is yet hope that MDC will win and the result will be accepted.

I think this is what Oneword is alluding to: The possibility that although the vote itself will be deeply flawed, the parties will accept an MDC/Tsvangirai victory. Picture this: MDC/Tsvangirai win the elections, Mugabe accepts defeat and urges his party and its followers and the security establihsment to respect the result. Suddenly he is the democrat, the hero who was villified (also by myself I must admit) and can parade himself to the world as such. Mugabe is thus rehabilitated te hero he proclaims to be and can retire as an elder statesman. All his critics are left with egg on theifaces. Or is Mugabe bluffing? How do you read his comments?

Shebeen posted this: ZIMBABWE: Mugabe not expecting to win re-election

Sure of the thousands of bad things done by mugabe the one good thing (admitting defeat without voilence) may restore his image and respect. Either way if he seeked imortality he'll get it. Another thought is do you remember all the villians of the past the world over let's say in the past 100 years? If you can good for you, now try to remember all the good guys. My list is shorten than the evil do'ers.

Dude · #27 **3rd April 2008, 03:10 PM**

Looks like I'll have to eat my words. What can I say: My emotions ran away with me. I'll shut my mouth and will as COrmade_007 and Oneword say wait and see. Looks like that's what everbody is doing ...

Oneword · #28 **3rd April 2008, 03:39 PM**

Dude,

Do not despair! Patience is a virtue> Patience (at least the one I know!) is nice. But, on the other hand: ' 'too much virtue can hurt you.'

phelakuti · #29 **3rd April 2008, 10:05 PM**

Listening to Mr. Mugabe's last biographer's assertion about donor countries waitning to aide MDC's administration, I am anxious to see Bob leaves and Zim return back on the road to normalcy. Yet I am concerned about the prospect since MDC had mentioned retribution against Bob.

Oneword · #30 **4th April 2008, 06:00 AM**

In one of the MDC-leaning Zim papers, MT said he would NOT call for retribution against or persecution of Mugabe. That is about three days or so ago.

View Poll Results: Do you believe the March harmonised elections in Zimbabwe were free and fair?
Yes, they were	28	14.58%
No, they were not	108	56.25%
I'm not sure	56	29.17%
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