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| View Poll Results: Do you believe the second round of the March harmonised elections in Zimbabwe were free and fair? | |||
| Yes, they were | | 31 | 14.22% |
| No, they were not | | 123 | 56.42% |
| I'm not sure | | 64 | 29.36% |
| Voters: 218. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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| Sponsor's Message Sad, but true Tjommie - democracy in our region goes only as far as it does not threaten the interests of the ruling cliques/elites. Democracy is literally skin deep, and so we should neither trust nor expect regional leaders to stand up in the face of blatant violence perpetrated by one of their own on his own people. There is little commitment beyond tokenism to true political tolerance, democracy, the rule of law and human rights. The other thing, of course, is that the will of the people is equated to Western neo-imperialist meddling. The people actually have no or little will left, and their voice - if expressed - can be ignored without consequence. How can election results be deemed a state secret except if it is pretty obvious that the incumbent lost the vote? WHat a load of balloney. Free and fair elections? Free and fair if the ruling parties win. Rigged and manipulated by outsiders if they lose. There is a degree of race solidarity at play, too. Dare I say it. Increasingly this is not the case with the general populations in SADC countries, because half of them are from Zimbabwe and people know about the deep suffering inflicted by the Mugabe regime on its own people. But it certainly remains the case with most members of the elites in Namibia, Angola, Malawi, Mozambique. To a lesser degree it remains the case with South Africa and Zambia. See, what goes for Mugabe and ZANU may also go for them, so they protect each other's backs shamelessly. Let's call a spade a spade: We are not yet fit for truly democratic polities in our region, except maybe Botswana. Sure, democracy is not perfect, and it takes time to take root. But how much time, I ask? How much does it take for the rule of law to prevail, all the time? How much does it take to walk the talk, instead of talk, talk, talk and flog, flog, flog. Witness how all other ruling parties - including SWAPO and the ANC - use outright bullying and harassment to protect their interests, usually at the expense of the wider community's well-being and development trajectory. For them the nation is their property, for them hold and behold as they please. and nobody will tell them otherwise. Yes, I'm venting and I challenge anyone to tell me I'm wrong. Sad, but true. Last edited by Comrade_007; 10th April 2008 at 03:11 PM. |
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| At last someone really not afraid to say just how he feels. Tjommie, it's still dog eat dog out there. Why should they complain; they are all fat, wealthy and healthy and (more or less) peaceful. Why should they worry? Wait until the problems spill over the respective borders! Then you will see them taking action very quickly to curtail any damage. Last edited by Oneword; 10th April 2008 at 03:51 PM. Reason: spelling |
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| Comrade_007, Quote:
Once a member of the elite; always a member of the elite. Go check! |
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| Well, Shebeeners! There is momentum!. Just look at this latest press release from IDASA - The Institute for Democracy in South Africa. It may only be a bunch of pale sunseekers, but a voice is a voice! Quote:
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| I heard a mixed reaction from the Namibian government with regard to the election results' matter in Zim. One was the cautionary tone to not meddle in pure domestic affairs of another sovereign entity. The other had been the founding father's (Dr. Nujoma) threat against Britain and imperialists. He threatened that SWAPO will march to "Mugabe's Zim" side in case imperialists including Britain threaten his position. Where does the government stand? Who speaks for the nation? And how about the voices of the people? Are we so flabbergasted that no one bother to even sqeal out of empathy? I guess others are rightfully prudent to stay out of such topics, neh. ![]() |
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| This theme has been accurately pinpointed and reiterated by many. The problem manifests itself in the majority goverment concept. Where its origin is a democratic hypothesis that produces an undemocratic environment in practice. Some had once opined that a popular majority can be tyranical. The process of crafting modern national constitutions could envisage these inherent weaknesses had it not been for the vice and caprices of the very would be majority's influence at the onset. It is therefore imperative to always seek to make the necessary amendments that otherwise could have been incorporated at the beginning. Otherwise, there could be no democracy. And no meaningful peace and tranquility. |
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| Perhaps, the president had gone by his predecessor's reaction. Since Mr. Nujoma was a guest of honor at the side of Bob at one of the rallies in Zim. It is certainly a lame but human to use the not-to-meddle in private matters kind of excuse. It is however not taken lightly here in western Europe the threat of such magnitude---national government (even when he said SWAPO) senior leader's declaration of belligerence towards England, in particular. England had taught Amin a lesson and had just done so for Bob. If Namibia is praying for it is bound to receive some. In contrast, if one seeks blessings even for USSR or Red China, they are brought back into the fold. This is where Namibia's future generations need to be. With Botswana, SA, Zambia, England and the rest. Not with the rogues. |
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| Juikk, In +- 7 075 words of the State of the Nation Address of today (10 April 2008), the word "Zimbabwe" appears only ONCE: Quote:
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| Reading - as I usually do - I came upon this very interesting article from Mbendi (mail_admin@mbendi.com). I think it worth reprinting and reading: Quote:
Last edited by Oneword; 11th April 2008 at 02:09 PM. Reason: highlighting |
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