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Old 21st April 2008, 02:15 AM
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You may be correct. I always stand to be corrected. I am and have always been a student. Whatever is correct is good, Mr. P. Just go ahead and put it straight. No ill feelings, honest. But for a G at Unam. I tell you, I can take any course at any given area at Unam and believe me I'll score higher than their average. This institutions has a 40% for a passing grade. Honestly, this is too low, atleast for me personally. Over my dead body will I allow myself to see an a on my effort at such a mediocre institute.
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Old 21st April 2008, 08:25 AM
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when i first came here i was told that in order to make Nambia's education system look good all students pass.

i see now that is a lie and credit must be given to the institution of education and the government.
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Old 21st April 2008, 01:49 PM
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Omer, for most of course it is indeed not entirely bad standards, but one wonders when you sit with a 16 year old from up north in lecture hall, who was praised to have done 2 grades in 1 year(because I always wonder when GRN states that kids should be 7 on their first day of school how someone made it to tertiary level at that age) , but never speaks like a brilliant student, yet scores 80%, 90 % and even 100%....well one can only wonder what exactly happens there....jux saying
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Old 22nd April 2008, 12:31 AM
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from what saw from up north .. you have 5 or 6 grades in the same class at the same time
in the same room.

not exactly an ideal learning enviroment but i was totally taken back at the school work they brought home .

it was a factual history lesson on Namibia and there was absolutely no white bashing ,
no Nujamo praising and all in perfectly hand written english "with minor spelling errors".

so who knows what the next gen can do , reading the Namibian lately has really shown some progress many sectors lately.

maybe? it's pre-election stuff but i really don't think so , it even looks like New Era is far more real then the few years i have been reading it.

i think things are looking up even though there is far to go

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Old 22nd April 2008, 05:20 AM
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If this was a grammar school I have the faith in all of them that they could have tried and pass with flying colors. Since this is not, however, mispelling, poor grammar, deficient syntax, "deadwoods", etc. are much of a favorable option, since they do not want every word spelled and every sentence to read-out as correctly, lest they one day stand trial...........
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Old 25th April 2008, 06:55 PM
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i think the statements by SPYL today concerning Zimbabwe and the need to keep the regime in Zimbabwe as it is should be an indication of how far out of touch the Sawpo party really is.

these statements protect their interests , not the interests of the Zim people nor the collective opinion of it's Namibian residents. "at least i hope not"

if these statements are not an election breaker , what will it take??



from the Namibia Newpaper
THE Swapo Youth League has come out with guns blazing, saying it was opposed to regime change in Zimbabwe.

Elijah Ngurare, secretary for the Swapo youth wing, told a media briefing yesterday that a regime change in Zimbabwe would allow 'die-hard racists and their stooges' to take control of the country's destiny and thus plunge it back into minority rule.
He called for an urgent extraordinary SADC summit to discuss the doctrine of regime change that he claimed was spearheaded by countries from the western world.
Ngurare's address was titled 'No To Regime Change In Southern Africa' and was called to express solidarity with Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe.
He said the campaign to effect regime change in Zimbabwe started before the country's last election with 'racist sanctions' imposed on the country, which led to untold misery and suffering for the ordinary people.
"The doctrine of regime change has involved the creation of opposition parties that are shells for promoting commercial and strategic interests of the West, entice some governments with aid to support regime change, rely on the patriotic support of the Eurocentric media (both in Europe and in Africa), former Rhodesians, non-governmental organisations and the so-called civil society," Ngurare said.
He claimed the objective was to reverse the gains of the liberation struggle in favour of previous masters in Zimbabwe.
"Today it's Zimbabwe, tomorrow it may as well be Zambia, South Africa, Mozambique, Namibia or Angola," he said.
He said one of SADC's objectives was to promote common political values through democratic, legitimate and effective institutions but also to preserve and defend collective sovereignty and independence.
"It is time that SADC convene an extraordinary summit to discuss the doctrine of regime change as spearheaded by the western powers," Ngurare said.
He also called on "all progressive forces in Namibia, especially the National Union of Namibian Workers" to stand against regime change in Zimbabwe and the rest of the region.
"It is a matter of principle to defend the sovereignty of SADC and in particular of Zimbabwe against agents of regime change," Ngurare said.

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Default re: SWAPO Failure: Reality, not a myth

Omer,

Ngurare is Swapo YOUTH LEAGUE and not SWAPO. Following the success of some of his predecessors to end up higher in the hierarchy or even in parliament after opening their mouths wide and closing their brains tight, Cde N probably hopes to imitate these "heroes".

Something like: empty drums ....................................
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Old 25th April 2008, 07:44 PM
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so SPYL is an independent body from Swapo and collectively they really believe the West is the cause of Mugabe's lost election and no regimes in Southern Africa should change.

i suppose soon they will say RDP , NSHR are stooges for the West , let's not have regime change.

in my few the stooges supported from the North East "China , North Korea " are what most should be worried about.

i don't know where Malaysia is so i didn't include them as East
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Old 27th April 2008, 10:00 AM
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Hotheads is probably the best description of many SPYL leaders. There is a law in Namibian politics which says that in order to become a "credible" politician and ingratiate yourself with the SWAPO establishment you have to:

a - be virulently anti-West
b - see a neo-imperialist behind every bush
c - blame all ills on whites and be versed in the rhethoric of race politics
d- be terminably stuck in the past

Only once you have made sufficient noise and regularly raised your voice to fever-pitch heights denouncing boers, whites, Americans and all other ilk may you may enter the hallowed halls of comradeship and can attempt to climb the next rung in the ladder to the top. It's like an initiation rite of passage in a gang, and it seems to be the language and mindset that allows you to enter the group.

That was probably understandable in the struggle days, but it is as meaningless and hollow as it is inappropriate given that we want our country to move ahead. You can tell a SPYL comrade from a mile away they are so predictable.

It's sad, but true - the SPYL plays a shallow role when it comes to building our nation. It is reactive, dogmatic and full of noise but little else - well most of the time. And because they cannot actually propose or formulate anything close to meaningful policies or policy interventions they have only their bark.

And what a bark it can be. But beware: SPYL: You can only bark so much and then nobody believes you anymore. Witness your counterpart in Zimbabwe, the ZANU-PF Youth League, a shadow of its former self and completely ineffectual and essentially irrelevant.

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Default re: SWAPO Failure: Reality, not a myth

Sadly these "future leaders" are more of an embarrassment than anything else.

I could not have put it better than Comrade_007.

The saddest of ALL is that the SWAPO party never comes out to reprimand them in public. This leads to one conclusion that the SWAPO party used the SPYL to get this dumb message across to the general public. Poor really!

Our leaders have clearly become detached from their people.....but one thing is clear and that is that our leaders certainly feel the heat. The Zim issue is simply highlighting their ineffectiveness and loss of new and progressive ideas to solve "Africa's problems". This post-colonial leadership style that is sooo prevalent in Southern Africa is dying a slow death, and Mugabe is the first real casualty.....
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